[Mohd Idham]

[Christopher Teoh]

Folks,

Does anyone know if the MKMs will be powered by the AL-31FP or the newer AL-37FP as seen on the later batch of the MKIs?

[iwan]

i think ours will be equipped with the Al-31FP if im not mistaken..

yeap...the su30mkm does include the front canards with thrust vectoring as well...im alredi drooling by the fact that we got this plane with specs almost identical to the indian su30 MKI..my god..people have been saying that the MKI is better then the su37 terminator and we are ownig 18 of it!LIMA 07 will be a must for me!!

[Geoff R.]

Have a look at this link for some photos of the ceremony.

http://pilot.strizhi...2007/05/26/3705

Shows aircraft M52-02 in several photos.

Geoff

[Christopher Teoh]

Looking at the photos I noticed four interesting features that is distinctive to the MKM.

1) Ahead of the canopy, on the nose, off-set to the left, it appears to be a set of four blades that looks similar to the 'Bird-Slicer' IFF fitted on the F-16ADF.

2) Small blister, right below the tip of the root extension (LERX). Warning receiver?

3) Blister under nose, just ahead of the nose gear door cover.

4) Enlarged rudder. Compare it to other Su-30s.

[iwan]

what a beauty..i wud prefer it to be in 'skyblue' like their russian counterparts..grey look a bit 'cheap'..

does the enlarged rudder means extra maneuverability?the irkutsk company will be setting up a mantainence center here right?i dun want to see untrained hands anywhere near the plane...

btw..did we purchase this plane with the r73s,r77 etc.?the missiles came together with the deal or we didnt buy any?

[Ignatius]

Fulamak.. damn nice Sukhoi we have there... just that I do hope our boys plays nice with it...
Those missiles could be in the package?? or were they arent just to protect themselves during ferry flight kekekee... who knows

[iwan]

lol...imp raying hard that they take good care of it..forget the 'frontliners' hawk..

an interesting article..
January 17, 2004

On 16th December, the Thales Group, a large European defense electronics manufacturer, signed a 150 million Euro (approximately $193 million) deal to provide avionics for the 18 Su-30MKM that Malaysia recently ordered.

The deal involves the installation of avionics, navigation, identification and optronics systems on the aircraft in Russia, and which will be carried out in partnership with Sukhoi, with integration under the oversight of the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF).

Malaysia's Su-30MKM are based on the Indian Su-30MKI variants, except that Malaysia has refused, for political reasons, to use the same Israeli developed avionics and electronics systems that the Indians use. Choosing Thales to provide these systems is interesting, because depending on what Thales products the RMAF actually purchased, the Su-30MKM could very well have an avionics system comparable to the most advanced French warplane, the Rafael. For example, Thales manufactures two air-to-air IRST sensors, one of which is used on the Rafael, and the other the Eurofighter. The Su-30MKM thus has the potential to be the most advanced and potent Su-30 variant ever, eclipsing the Su-30MKI.

On the down-side, the integration of these systems with Russian avionics and weapon systems may take some time. India, for example, spent six years integrating Indian and Israeli systems into the Su-30MKI.

btw..why are they shipping the sukhois by plane rather then flying them here??

This post has been edited by iwan: 27 May 2007 - 12:41 PM

[Hans]

I think it's cool stuff Malaysia! good choice! You've now got the most competent fighter of all ASEAN countries.

[Christopher Teoh]

what a beauty..i wud prefer it to be in 'skyblue' like their russian counterparts..grey look a bit 'cheap'..

does the enlarged rudder means extra maneuverability?the irkutsk company will be setting up a mantainence center here right?i dun want to see untrained hands anywhere near the plane...

btw..did we purchase this plane with the r73s,r77 etc.?the missiles came together with the deal or we didnt buy any?

I don't know how significant the enlarged rudder will be. Yes, the Irkutsk company is setting up a center here similar to the ones for the MiGs.

It is also interesting that the MKM was displayed with just the R73s and R27s. Probably due to political sensitivity. It is extremley wasteful if the government have no intention of arming the MKMs with the R77s, the N011 BARS will need the R77s to go hand in hand in order to be effective. The RSiAF are openly flashing their AAMRAMS so why all the sensitivity?

[iwan]

yeap..i still couldnt find anything on the net..was wondering why nobody mentioned anything about arming our birds..number of missiles are classified stuffs right?if they are smart enuff to choose the su30,im sure they will know well enuff about the r77s..the 12 missiles carried is enuff to scare our enemies compared to the MIGs..

btw..i just noticed in the pic..the airbrake at the tip of he wing..i thot su30s dun actually have those unlike the su25s??or is that a loose sticker peeling off?

ow yea...it took me until now to introduce myself..was just too excited to finally find this forum..im just a student very much interested in fighter jets..hope to learn a lot more from this forum...

[Edwin Yii]

right now im wondering how many spares AA and AG does our fighters have anyway? i mean .. in the act of war surely we hate the terms " tuan.. missile tak rak already" ......!!! habis stok! anyway kewl aircrafts! love to catch it sometime!

This post has been edited by Edwin Yii: 28 May 2007 - 02:22 AM

[Edwin Yii]

by the way interested on the building process of this aircraft?

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XIxr4PDT544

enjoy!

[Christopher Teoh]

yeap..i still couldnt find anything on the net..was wondering why nobody mentioned anything about arming our birds..number of missiles are classified stuffs right?if they are smart enuff to choose the su30,im sure they will know well enuff about the r77s..the 12 missiles carried is enuff to scare our enemies compared to the MIGs..

btw..i just noticed in the pic..the airbrake at the tip of he wing..i thot su30s dun actually have those unlike the su25s??or is that a loose sticker peeling off?

ow yea...it took me until now to introduce myself..was just too excited to finally find this forum..im just a student very much interested in fighter jets..hope to learn a lot more from this forum...

The MKMs will probably get the usual R73/74, R27 and R77 BVRs. As for air-to-ground munitions I suspect it will carry some western/NATO munitions. Thales has integrated the Damocles multi-mission and targetting system to the MKMs (same as the Rafales) thus the chances of the MKMs wired to fire western air-to-surface munitions is high.

On the air brake thingy, it is just the angle of the shot...you are looking at the dorsal brake (F-15 style).

Thanks for introducing yourself, I'm new here too - Hi everyone!!!

[Mohd Idham]

Fulamak.. damn nice Sukhoi we have there... just that I do hope our boys plays nice with it...
Those missiles could be in the package?? or were they arent just to protect themselves during ferry flight kekekee... who knows

Iggy, that the dummy one....notice there is no "engine nozzle" on that missile...

[Saiful Bahari]

saw this comment (which I think a little bit harsh) on website where those pictures came from (scroll below to comment no.6 - he commented as well the lousiness of the pictures)

And why do you need three or four squadrons of these for air defense? Defence from whom? When was the last time your air defenses fired a shot in anger? These are first-strike aircraft that will make your neighbours decide that THEY now need three or four squadrons of air defense fighters to protect themselves from YOU.

Malaysia needs these aircraft about as much as a taxi company needs Ferraris. Nice to have, but way, way more than could ever possibly be needed and it’s just going to result in the “competition” buying more than they need in order to keep up appearances. It would be cheaper for your taxpayers if your political and military leaders didn’t worry about the size of their penises and try to compensate this way.

Comment by Phil Aysho — May 27, 2007 @ 2:36 am

what's you guys think about it...I wonder this guy is our neighbor

This post has been edited by Saiful Bahari: 28 May 2007 - 10:08 AM

[iwan]

well the comment is a bit harsh...you never know when they will be a war..a person who is an ally today might turn out an enemy tomorrow..not being paranoid but if it happens we cant count on our migs to protect us..im starting to doubt the point of that remark.

about the dorsal brakes thingy...was it on the previous versions of sukhois?and why are they bringing the sukhois by plane instead of flying those birds here?did we request for a 'brand new' untouched plane?

[Mohd Idham]

We are civilian maybe have a different kind of comment, but did we heard from military people yet ?

[Christopher Teoh]

The dorsal brakes is a standard feature on all the Flanker family. As for as how they will be delivered, I don't know why the Russians love using those Ruslans (the same for our Migs). On the other hand our Hornets were 'catapulted' into Malaysia via an aircraft carrier!

As for that fella Phil Aysho he is probably harboring secret desire of seeing a fleet of MKMs in his country as well.

[Pieter C.]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=XIxr4PDT544
enjoy!

I surely did, Edwin, thanks for sharing the link: great to see this fighter being 'born'